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30-Nov-87 08:26:29-PST,29556;000000000001
Date: Mon 30 Nov 87 10:15:01-EDT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #97

Usenet Mac Digest     Saturday, November 28, 1987    Volume 3 : Issue 97

Today's Topics:
     MacUser Hypercard coverage
     My MacUser gripe (was: Hypercard coverage)
     Re: Looking for source for Nubus Specification
     Need help recovering corrupted Excel format file.
     Re: Is borland abandoning Macintosh?
     What to do when your HD disappears
     Connecting sun to appletalk
     Mac Networking
     Unprofessionalism of Australian MacWorld
     Reflex Plus
     Re: Is borland abandoning Macintosh?
     Exiting Multifinder?
     Re: APDA - any satisfied customers?
     Magazines to read (was Re: MacUser Hypercard coverage)
     Re: Curiouser and curiouser...
     Apple File Exchange Mac-to-DOS ?? Does it work?

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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: MacUser Hypercard coverage
Date: 22 Nov 87 22:16:40 GMT

Was anyone else disgusted by Steve Bobker's editorial in the latest
MacUser? On how rotten Hypercard was? (Fortunately, Shapiro was on the
next page write exactly the opposite -- the end result being that
MacUSer, as usual, didn't say a damn thing....).

For those that missed it, Bobker has two main points 'proving' that
Hypercard was bad:

1) Apple's giving it away. And for only one reason, because it'll force
    everyone to go out and buy more memory, causing Apple to make lots
of
    money.

Now, while I'll admit that lots of folks are going to want/need more
memory, lots of that upgrade money will be going to third parties, not
to Apple. I don't see a lot of gain for Apple from this one. And Bobker
misses the basic reason why Apple is giving HyperCard away. Bill
Atkinson had it written into his contract. If Apple DID NOT give
HyperCard away, ownership reverted back to Bill and he planned on giving
it away himself. Apple basically had no choice.

It's not as if this is a big secret. It was common knowledge at MacExpo.
It's been all over this network as well as on Delphi (and, I assume, on
CompuServe). The only excuse I can see for this is that Bobker either is
completely ignoring reality or he's creating his own reality in a way to
make Apple look bad. At best, it's shoddy journalism. I'm not impressed.

2) Bobker's other point was that the lack of restriction on the user
    interface will kill the Mac. I almost fell out of my chair laughing
over
    this one. His claim is that with everyone doing exactly what they
want,
    the cohesiveness of the Mac Interface will die, and so will the mac.

My response is simple. Bull. To put it simply, this isn't a new problem.
Lots of programs have taken lots of liberties with the Mac User
Interface over time. The really strange ones, the ones that broke rules
or bent them in bad ways, tend to go out of business because people
won't buy or use them. They get bad reviews, bad press, and bad sales.

Others muck with the user interface and occasionally fix something that
was broken, or come up with something the interface forgot. The
zoom-window icon, for instance, came out of an extension in Word 1.0,
not out of Apple. It was a good enough idea that Apple adopted it.

MacUser has the most consistently unprogfessional and immature
journalism of ANY magazine in the Mac universe. This is just the latest
instance of shoddy writing and innuendo. MacUser seems to think that
Apple Bashing is a Good Thing. I'm all for criticizing Apple when they
muck up, but MacUser never seems to have anything good to say. And if
the facts don't back them up, they tend to make up some new facts (just
keep an eye on the Rumor Manager section -- especially the rumors about
the Developer Cabal that's going to file suit over HyperCard. The Cabal
seems to consist of Owl, Owl, and Owl).

I'd also like to point out that MacUser is by far the most
unprofessional magazine I've ever attempted to work with from the point
of view of a writer. They've punted four straight queries of mine. Not
turned them down, simply neglected to respond to them at all (and yes, I
include return postage and envelopes). This is pretty nasty, becausze
many ideas have limited time value -- by the time you realize they
aren't going to bother responding, the idea is unsalable elsewhere. This
doesn't seem to be a special case, either. I've talked with two other
Macuser writers or attempted-writers who have had major problems getting
timely responses out of them. I have heard from an unidentified but
reliable source that MacUser lost a senior editorial person to another
magazine because they refused to pay freelancers on a timely basis. Many
folks I talk to now refuse to write for them -- and you can count me on
that list now, too.

The latest query was sent after a request in the last issue for queries
from new writers. MacUser specifically asked folks to contact them about
writing for them. So I did, and as part of the letter pointed out my
past problems with getting responses from the magazine and asked for a
confirmation of the letter by November 15 (four weeks for a confirmation
of a one page query letter not being unreasonable). A week past the
deadline, nada. Even as their asking folks to write for them, they're
screwing over those that try.

MacUser started out a good magazine. They've turned into a shoddy,
unprofessional, inaccurate rumorsheet. I've let my subscription lapse,
and I've sent them my last query. This kind of magazine the field can do
without. If I were you, if you read MacUser, I'd find a new magazine.

chuq
--
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach            [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Erazm J. Behr)
Subject: My MacUser gripe (was: Hypercard coverage)
Date: 22 Nov 87 16:24:08 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
writes:
>Was anyone else disgusted by Steve Bobker's editorial in the latest MacUser?
(numerous justified complaints deleted)

I also was a subscriber & quit for similar reasons. Now I glance at it
occasionally, and I noticed the following: a while ago (1/2 year ?) they
reviewed Turbo Pascal - I have it, so I read the review with some
interest. They even gave it 4.5 stars out of 5, not bad. Since then I've
been looking at the "capsule" reaviews in the back ("minifinders" they
call it ?) & Turbo hasn't shown up to this day! A question: does anyone
know what the story is? Is MacUser out to get Borland? Is it plain
incompetence? Has Borland requested this for some bizarre reason? I'm
puzzled.                                 Eric (correct address below)

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          >>>>--------------->         [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew C.Esh)
Subject: Re: Looking for source for Nubus Specification
Date: 23 Nov 87 04:56:20 GMT
Organization: EMS/McGraw-Hill, Eden Pairie, MN

    Call APDA and ask for "Macintosh II and Macintosh SE Cards & Drivers",
or "Macintosh Family Hardware Reference."  I don't have either one, but
the  descriptions in the APDA catalog sure look good.

 APDA
 290 SW 43rd st.
 Renton Wa 98055
 [phone]

DISCLAIMER: My only connection with APDA is as an extremely satisfied
customer. If I were connected any other way I'd be Mr. PotatoHead.


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From: [e-mail] (Bureau of Redundancy Bureau and Mattress Tag Police)
Subject: Need help recovering corrupted Excel format file.
Date: 22 Nov 87 21:15:07 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas

  I have a file in Excel binary format that Excel is unable to read
completely without crashing (ID=02). Naturally, the file contains
valuable data. The file is openable and can be scanned OK with a disk
sector editor. Does anyone know how I may:
  a) Find out the Excel binary format so I can reconstitute the data.
    -or-
  b) Know of a Mac application that is capable of reading Excel files,
hopefully without barfing on this one like Excel does?
  Replies via mail, and thanks in advance. -wiley
[e-mail]    ut-ngp!wmartin
--
Wiley Sanders, Civil Engineering Dept, UT-Austin
secret NSA CIA anti Soviet Iran terrorist nuclear drug decoder ring
                                     - take THAT, NSA line-eater!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Is borland abandoning Macintosh?
Date: 22 Nov 87 20:25:00 GMT

    Considering that Borland just created a WHOLE NEW DIVISION dedicated to
Macintosh development, I think that you have very little to worry about.

>Does anyone have any info about the differences between IBM Turbo
>Pascal, Mac Turbo Pascal, and Lightspeed pascal?  I have programs that
    I understand (though have never tried it) that IBM Turbo and Mac Turbo
are code compatable (I would assume that libraries may differ, but other
than that..).  Porting from IBM Turbo or Mac Turbo to LSP is not a great
hard- ship, but it is neither a piece of cake.  The code itself will not
need to be rewritten but your includes/uses statements will need some
rewrites since LSP handles this stuf quite differently from both Turbo
and MPW.
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Joseph Hammen)
Subject: What to do when your HD disappears
Date: 23 Nov 87 17:40:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Applications, Inc.

Recently, several people have been posting messages about their Mac II
hard drives "disappearing" after a crash or reboot. Here are some things
to try to recover your hard disk:

1) Boot the Macintosh II from a System Tools floppy. Hold down the
Command, Option, and Shift (and possibly Control?) keys while pulling
down the Control Panel DA. You will get a message saying something like
"Are you sure you want to zap PRAM?". Select yes. Then, attempt to
reboot.

2) Boot with a utilities floppy. Run the HD SC Setup application (1.5 is
the latest and most preferable) and re-install the SCSI driver on your
hard disk. (do this with the "Update" function). Again, attempt to
reboot.

3) Boot with the Utilities disk. Select the "Disk First Aid" application
and use the "Set Startup" option in the Special menu of the Finder to
make it the startup application. Reboot, and you should be in Disk First
Aid. Open  the hard disk volume, if you can. Before you click on "Start"
to begin scavenging the disk, you might want to type Command-S - this
will give you a more detailed explanation of what the program is doing.
After DFA does its  bit, you might wish to try to reboot again.

Note that if the hard disk does show up in the Finder, and will not
boot, despite any attempts to make it the "Startup Device" in the
Control Panel, you might want to try throwing away the System file and
replacing it with a virgin one.

If you can't get the hard disk to mount, try to find a copy of Paul
Mercer's SCSI Tools cdev (control panel file). It will scan the SCSI Bus
for devices and will attempt to mount them.

If you still can't recover the hard drive, consider purchasing MacZap.
The MacZap Recover HFS application is good at recovering trashed disks
that other programs can't touch. I got my copy for ~$35 from
ComputerWare.

--
=========================================================================
Robert Hammen    Computer Applications, Inc.    [e-mail]
Delphi: HAMMEN        GEnie: R.Hammen        CI$: 70701,2104


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From: [e-mail] (James Chang)
Subject: Connecting sun to appletalk
Date: 20 Nov 87 04:07:11 GMT

Here is situation,

I am using Sun 3/50 to write paper(troff), however the laser printer is
not located in near.  But there is apple laser write connected to
appletalk.  Is is possible for me to
    1) change serial port's speed to appletalk speed(on sun's manual
        says serial port is RS-432)
    2) write simple driver or routinte to send file using simple
       appletalk command(all it have to do is send file to printer)

Any help will be appreciated in solving this problem



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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (Kent W. England))
Subject: Mac Networking
Date: 23 Nov 87 20:30:37 GMT
Organization: Boston Univ. Information Tech. Dept.

    I hope this  is the right  forum to be  asking Mac  networking
questions.  This is  a rather long query,   but Mac  networking  in  a
Unix/Enet internet environment  is complex and   rapidly changing.  If
this material has been covered by most of you, then I would appreciate
direct  e-mail responses which  I will summarize  to  the  list if the
response warrants.  Thank you all in advance.

    Please  note that  I  have posted  to multiple newsgroups,  so please
limit your response, if broadcast, to the group you read it on. Thanks.

    While I am new to AppleTalk (AT) networking I am familiar with IP and
DECnet   and understand  the  routing/name  service/etc issues fairly
well.   I have   not  yet gotten  into   the gory  details   of
AppleTalk/EtherTalk, but I would like to frame some  general questions
to you to help me get up the learning curve a  little faster.  So, for
some general opinions of AppleTalk:

    I   like the   dynamic nature  of AppleTalk  and  its  use  of
broadcast  messages to acquire/defend  names and addresses,  but  I am
concerned   about how  this   scales up  into   large  zoned AppleTalk
networks,   particularly   in    an   Ethernet/IP   environment.    Is
AppleTalk/EtherTalk robust enough  for a large  AppleTalk internet  or
for AppleTalks operating in a large IP internet?

    Should I be running AT protocols on Unix servers  or  should I be
trying to bring the Unix services (eg NFS) down to the Mac?

    With the  introduction of   EtherTalk   and  a   differing  AT
encapsulation on Enet what  problems are  we  going to  encounter?  Is
EtherTalk  fundamentally    (ie,  more    than      (re)defining  Enet
encapsulation) different than its lower speed forebear?

    I am  looking to provide   what I have arbitrarily  defined as four
major types of network services for the Mac environment operating in an
Ethernet internet running primarily IP protocols.  I should tell you
that Boston University has a large  population of Sun workstations and
servers, a large population  of  VMS machines running DECnet, some
Encore  Multimaxen  and  Annexen,  and a token   ring  backbone router
network routing IP and DECnet traffic.

    The first capability   I am  looking to   provide is Mac  File Service
(MacFile) to allow Macintoshes  to  store and retrieve Mac HFS format
files on  Unix   servers.  The  file system    should be  Unix
compatible   and    be able to  be   managed  by  plain vanilla system
management utilities just like the Unix file system.

    Second  is  Mac  Print  Service  (MacPrint)  to  provide print spooling
and queue control for AT  LaserWriters  as well as PostScript printers
attached  to Unix  servers.   The spools should  interoperate with the
Unix spoolers allowing  a mix of Mac and  Unix output on the same PS
printer queue.

    Third is  Mac   Mail  Service  (MacMail)   allowing Mac-to-Mac transfer
 of formatted text and  graphics via  Unix  servers.  I would also like
to  allow  transform/transfer between MacMail and  SMTP mail handlers
preserving the Mac formats.

    Fourth is Mac  Unix Services (MacUnix) to allow transformation of file
formats from Unix programs to  Mac formats.  Simple ASCII text would be
the first step, but I would also like to be able to transform formatted
text  and graphics like TeX  or LaTeX to MacWrite/Word/other format.
These transform  utilities   should operate transparently as documents
are moved from one folder to the other.

    I am currently researching AppleShare/LaserShare, UltraOffice, and
TOPS.  I have the Farallon and Kinetics  hardware and am currently using
the CAP/KIP packages to get AppleShare running on  a Sun server. I am
concerned about the impact of EtherTalk on this configuration and am
wondering whether it  is wise to spec  AppleShare/LaserShare as the
protocol   for MacFile/MacPrint   or  whether  there   is a   way, ala
UltraOffice, to run the IP protocols exclusively on the Ethernet.  Any
opinions on how I should pursue MacFile/Print/Mail/Unix capability?

    How should I approach the AT  protocol  routing issue?  Should AT
remain encapsulated in IP Enet packets  for transfer through the IP
internet?  Does it make sense to plan  on AT routers?  Is AT  too weak
to allow large scale internetting of AT and AT/IP?   Should there be a
mix of AT and IP encapsulated AT on the same networks?

    Thanks for  reading and I  hope you take  the  time to give me your
opinions.  Descriptions  of network configurations that  you have or
are planning would  be appreciated along with descriptions  of how you
provide the File/Print/Mail/Unix services I outlined above.

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From: [e-mail] (J.T. Teh)
Subject: Unprofessionalism of Australian MacWorld
Date: 21 Nov 87 06:37:51 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia

          Unprofessionalism of Australian MacWorld
          ----------------------------------------

        Sometime ago, readers of UseNet may remember that  a  few
articles by Peter Olson was posted. These articles were summaries of
some talks by Bill Atkinson, Bill Campbell  and  some  others, made
during  the  Boston MacWorld Expo some time ago (read a few months).
Readers may also remember an article posted by  me  pre- viewing
HyperCard at Melbourne University, Australia. These arti- cles  were
posted  to  UseNet  sometime   in   September   1987.
        It  has  come  to  my  attention that these articles were
reprinted without the permission of the authors, Peter Olson  and myself
 in  the  October  issue  of  the  Australian  edition  of MacWorld. I
have since written to the editor, Osmund Iverson  but have  not had any
reply.         Though the articles of Peter Ol- son were correctly
attributed, the same cannot be said about  the article  written  by  me.
In my article, it was explicitly stated that the article may be freely
reposted but must include the name of  the author (me) and that the
article must be printed in full. Both of these wishes were ignored. Not
only was my name left out, but   the   article   was   edited  with
some  chunks  excluded.
        Though I do not wish to sue, I am expressing  my  dissap-
pointment  of  the  unprofessionalism  of  Australian MacWorld. I
realise that Oz MacWorld is affliated to US MacWorld. It is  well known
within  Oz Mac users that Oz MacWorld is a trashy magazine with no
scrupples and I wish to make this  known  worldwide.  For readers
within  Australia,  I  appeal to you all to boycott this trashy
magazine. Not only do we get better news from the  net,  I have  found
little worth in most of the articles in Oz MacWorld.
        I thank you for you attention.
--
---------------------------
J.T Teh
"He is no fool who  gives  up what   he   cannot   keep   to
gain   what   he  cannot  lose."
                             -   James Elliot
===========================
UUCP:   {seismo,mcvax,ukc,ubc-vision}!mulga!jteh
ARPA:   [e-mail]
CSNET:  jteh%mulga.oz@australia


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen E. Miner)
Subject: Reflex Plus
Date: 23 Nov 87 22:25:31 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

I've been using Reflex to manage some mailing lists, and I'm wondering
if I should get the upgrade to Reflex Plus.  For some reason, it bothers
me to have to pay more for the upgrade than I did for the original
program.  In addition, I'm thinking about moving my databases into
HyperCard and dropping Reflex all together.

I would appreciate comments about what's so great about Reflex Plus,
especially with respect to HyperCard.  You can mail to me directly and
I'll summarize for the net.

Thanks, Steve Miner

Internet: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Gardner)
Subject: Re: Is borland abandoning Macintosh?
Date: 23 Nov 87 19:37:19 GMT
Organization: Philips Research Labs, Sunnyvale, California

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William C.
DenBesten) writes:
>Found in PC week 22 sep 87, page 148:
>
>> ... early in 1988 ... there's a good chance Sir Kahn's company will
>> have sold off most of its Macintosh product lines, currently offered
>> by Borland to several firms including Apple's software spinoff, Claris.

Probably a silly rumor. Borland seems to have committed itself more
strongly to the Mac since Sept. But, then, you never can tell...

>Does anyone have any info about the differences between IBM Turbo
>Pascal, Mac Turbo Pascal, and Lightspeed pascal?

I don't have direct experience converting IBM Turbo to Mac Turbo but a
colleague of mine does. I could provide more detailed info on request.
However, to be brief, he was VERY disappointed with compatability
between the two products. I was quite surprised to hear this, since you
would think that the main motivation for doing the port was to give
customers access to that large body of IBM Turbo code. The problems I
remember offhand were: movetoxy uses screen coordinates with (0,0) in
the upper-left-hand corner of the IBM screen but in the middle of the
Mac screen (I can't possibly imagine why this change was made); and most
of the extensions to Pascal in IBM Turbo are not available in Mac Turbo.
The Mac Turbo seems more concerned about Lisa Pascal compatability than
IBM Turbo compatability. Strange choice in my opinion.

Robert Gardner


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From: [e-mail] (Spencer W. Thomas)
Subject: Exiting Multifinder?
Date: 23 Nov 87 21:55:57 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Is there some way to exit MultiFinder without rebooting the Mac?  I have
some applications that cannot run under MultiFinder, and it is annoying
to have to reboot to run one.

=Spencer   ({ihnp4,decvax}!utah-cs!thomas, [e-mail])


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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Re: APDA - any satisfied customers?
Date: 23 Nov 87 14:32:32 GMT
Organization: Ashton Tate Development Center Glendale Cal.

I tend to disagree.  While it is true that there are mail-order houses
that charge less on a number of 3rd party products, there are some that
seem to only be available at a discount from APDA (SemperSoft Modula-2,
for one).  Further, publications such as the Tech Notes, IM Volume V,
Apple Hardware Reference Manual, etc ("official" Apple publications) are
sole-sourced through APDA.

They are undoubtedly making a fair profit on 3rd party items, but I
don't think they're making much on the Apple products since they have to
do the printing and so forth themselves (and end up with a LOT of dead
stock when Apple publishes an update).

As far as shipping and handling goes, the others seem to have just gone
up a lot -- $4.30 S/H for Acta 2.0 from ComputerWare (all inside CA),
that's 10%.
--
Dennis Cohen
Ashton-Tate Glendale Development Center
dBASE Mac Development Team
--------------------------
Disclaimer:  The above material constitutes the personal opinion of the author!


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Magazines to read (was Re: MacUser Hypercard coverage)
Date: 23 Nov 87 21:01:30 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

>I've been getting the same feeling myself, Chuq (although I'm just one of the
>millions of poor sods who subsribes -- thank God I don't write for them).  But
>since I gave up on MacWorld long ago (they seemed much too fluffy), where's
>a news-hungry Mac user to turn?  I get MacTutor for programming tips, but
>for product reviews and previews, is there a reasonable alternative to MacUser?

I'd give MacWorld another look. They've upgraded their coverage in the
last year. Still a bit fluffy, but much improved.

I also recommend MacAzine as another magazine that has made major
improvements in the last year. They're turning into a real magazine with
some solid material and good reporting.

It's hard. There isn't a single Macintosh magazine that you can
subscribe to and be satisified. For me, the optimal list right now is
FOUR, which is way too high:

 MacTutor (you must read this is you hack a Macintosh)
 MacWorld
 MacAzine (complementary, magazines. If you can only read one, take a
look
      at both and se which you prefer. It's a tough choice, and I don't
      know which one I'd choose right now)
 Macintosh Today (biweekly news rag. Worth it if you qualify for a free
    subscription to keep up to date)

most of the other magazines I've seen are pretty useless -- either
rehashing stuff everyone else has already rehashed, hopelessly amateur
writing, or simply boring. I'd LOVE a magazine that would put together
the good parts of MacWorld with a stronger technical, MacTutor
orientation (at the least, someone who does an MPW column and probably
an LSC column -- the lispers, fortraners and the rest of the lesser-used
languages probably wouldn't warrant enough pages to make it worth it).
Then I'd be in heaven.

sigh. anyone got a spare $5million to put on a publishing startup?

chuq
--
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach            [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Tecot)
Subject: Re: Curiouser and curiouser...
Date: 23 Nov 87 00:09:44 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Clayton Elwell) writes:
>Does anyone have a good explanation of why the resource manager in the
>128K ROMs contains support for Suitcase (or perhaps its predecessor DA
>Mob)?  To be specific, why InitResources looks in the system folder
>for a file of type 'INIT' and creator 'dMob', and executes the INIT
>128 resource out of it?  The OpenDeskAcc call also does some things
>having to do with this.

There is nothing in the ROM which does what you describe.  I don't know
what you came across, but I do have a good guess:

Suitcase probably patches InitResources and OpenDeskAcc (and maybe even
AddResMenu) in order to do its job.  What you are seeing is not ROM
code, but the patches installed by Suitcase.  To make sure, check the
address of the code; the ROM on the Mac+ starts at 400000 hexadecimal;
if the code you see is at a lower address, it's RAM.

                        _emt


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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Cheney)
Subject: Apple File Exchange Mac-to-DOS ?? Does it work?
Date: 23 Nov 87 17:26:11 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

Has anyone used the Apple File Exchange utility to read & write 3.5 "
disks in the format acceptable to the IBM PS/2 series  using the Mac's
internal disk drive ?

The copy of Apple File Exchange I have seen appeared to require a
configuration-type file to support Mac-to-DOS transfers.  There was a
file for Mac-to-Mac transfer, but not one for Mac-to-DOS.

Anyone done Mac-to-DOS (DOS-to-Mac) this way? Please tell me how you did
it !!

thanks

brucec (Bruce Cheney  Tektronix/TriQuint Semi.  Beaverton, OR)

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